wiring diagram

  • wiring diagram

    Posted by Mitch Rice on May 16, 2025 at 7:17 pm

    2 GFS Surf City pickups.

    3 way toggle switch

    2 volume, 1 tone

    Can I wire this to make the volumes work separate for respective pickups and together in the middle position? Without a blender pot.

    Gerry Hayes Haze Guitars replied 9 months, 2 weeks ago 3 Members · 14 Replies
  • 14 Replies
  • Jon W Queno Musical Instruments

    Member
    May 17, 2025 at 12:32 am

    The way I am thinking it, your layout would be: master volume, neck (or bridge) volume, and master tone. Bridge pickup wired to the toggle, neck pickup to middle of neck volume pot, output to toggle. Toggle output to master volume and tone wired in normally.

    It’s after midnight and I just got home from work, so drawing a diagram is not happening at this time. Maybe in the morning someone else will have come up with a better solution, or I can diagram it then. I’ll check back in.

  • Jon W Queno Musical Instruments

    Member
    May 17, 2025 at 10:11 am

    After a bit of sleep, and some time to think it over more clearly, my idea only allows control of neck pickup blend volume when in the middle position. For example; master volume at full, neck volume at half, would result in bridge heavy mix. Turning down the master volume would reduce overall volume, but is still bridge heavy in the mix. It does not allow half volume bridge with full volume neck. I can still offer a diagram if that limitation is acceptable to you.

    • Mitch Rice

      Member
      May 17, 2025 at 6:39 pm

      Hi Jon,

      Not with a master. I’m looking to be able to dial in both pickups in the middle position using the volumes independently. Thank you. Any diagrams greatly appreciated.

      • Jon W Queno Musical Instruments

        Member
        May 17, 2025 at 6:56 pm

        Sorry, not able to help. Maybe Gibson style wiring.

        • Mitch Rice

          Member
          May 18, 2025 at 2:13 pm

          Thank you.

          • Jon W Queno Musical Instruments

            Member
            May 18, 2025 at 3:41 pm

            I apologize for being kinda rude. Working second shift 6 to 7 days a week has made me a bit short tempered.

            My lack of experience with Gibson wiring leaves me unable to think in their terms.

            I look forward to seeing if anyone else with more experience comes up with a solution.

            • Mitch Rice

              Member
              May 19, 2025 at 2:01 pm

              Totally understand. Thank you for your input.

      • Gerry Hayes Haze Guitars

        Administrator
        May 18, 2025 at 2:46 pm

        Hey Mitch

        I’m not following this exactly. In the middle position, can you expand on what you want each volume pot to do?

        Thanks

  • Gerry Hayes Haze Guitars

    Administrator
    May 18, 2025 at 2:51 pm

    So, the question of what you want the volume pots to do in the middle position is open but, in the meantime, I’ll pass on this in the hope that it covers something.

    This sounds like it should be just like an explorer with single coils. I’ve attached a drawing.

    Pickup hot wires to volume pots.
    From volume pots to switch.
    Output from switch to master tone pot and then to output jack.

    As shown, it will operate like a Gibson, in the middle position, turning EITHER volume down will cut out BOTH pickups. If you prefer the volume pots to be independent and just to cut volume for the pickup they control, reverse the input and outputs at the volume pots (so the pickup hot connects to the middle lug)

    • Mitch Rice

      Member
      May 19, 2025 at 1:55 pm

      Gerry, what I was looking for was for the volumes to work independently in the middle position. Thank you.

      • Gerry Hayes Haze Guitars

        Administrator
        May 19, 2025 at 2:04 pm

        Ok. Wire as shown but connect the pickup hot wires to the middle lug of each volume pot. The wires going to the switch will then come from the other volume pot lug. That make sense?

        • Mitch Rice

          Member
          May 19, 2025 at 2:10 pm

          I hope so….. Will give it a try. Thank you Gerry!

        • Mitch Rice

          Member
          May 19, 2025 at 2:16 pm

          Got Sketchy, Complete Wiring and subscribe to the ‘rants’. Thank you for being an incredible resource.

  • Gerry Hayes Haze Guitars

    Administrator
    June 5, 2025 at 12:07 pm

    Uploading a revised diagram for this. The diagram above showed the standard Explorer wiring and I included some info on how to decouple the volume controls. I’ve made a new one that actually includes the decoupled wiring. So, you can go with this diagram if this thing is the sort of thing you want your thing to be. 😄

    Two pickups, 3-way toggle, two volumes (decoupled) and master tone.

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