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        Elaine S Hartstein Hartstein Guitars posted an update

        3 months ago

        What kind of glue do you think they used?

        This top crack had been glued (not by me), and is now open, puckered, and the glue residue is very dark (almost black). Internally, there are 2 very neat cleats. What glue do you think they used? A possible clue: there is a smear of something on the finish by the sound hole that looks like it could be epoxy.

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          Ian Davlin The Looth Group

          Any clues on what the cleats were glued in with?

          3 months ago
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            Elaine S Hartstein Hartstein Guitars

            @ianhatesguitars No, the cleats are very clean. Probably a different glue.

            3 months ago
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              Ian Davlin The Looth Group

              @patreon_105088020 I saw Michael’s mention titebond III. That is interesting. Hide glue could also look grubby if it was applied with unwashed fingers.

              Another over looked thing is just getting dirt infused polish smeared into it by the owner.

              3 months ago
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              Elaine S Hartstein Hartstein Guitars

              @ianhatesguitars I dug out as much of the offending glue out as I could, and it was definitely the adhesive that had turned dark. It wasn’t hide glue, as it wasn’t crunchy. The objective was to make it look and feel better, and close up and stabilize the gaping crack. I cleaned it up with sharp blades, inlaid some slivers of spruce, glued it flat with fish glue, and used Gluboost ultra thin on top. I also added more cleats. The attached picture shows the before and after. Better, though perhaps not best. The client didn’t budget for best.

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                Ian Davlin The Looth Group

                @patreon_105088020 Looks awesome !

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              Michael Minton

              I did a quick search and AI told me that Titebond III is noted for its propensity to turn dark over time (“nearly black, especially noticeable on lighter woods”). Did not know that, though it may be AI hallucination.

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                Elaine S Hartstein Hartstein Guitars

                @patreon_120195814 That could be it. Or we could all be AI hallucinations.

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                Michael Minton

                Cogito, ergo non sum artificialis intelligentiae

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                3 months ago
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